The Big TMM Custom Canon Collaboration Project

[Unsealed]

Hmmm. I vote for staying relatively close to canon in most things. Changing the time period too much will result in changes to the setting's nature and flavor. Medieval or Dark Ages would be suited best for that. However, deviating from the periods could produce a number of interesting possibilities, such as Steampunk, Urban Fantasy, Futuristic Fantasy, or the like.

Alternatively, we could produce a general timeline for the setting alongside some basic guidelines, and from there flesh out individual eras, resulting in time periods with different flavors or mechanics. To use the canon as an example, setting a story or adventure in a period prior to the current Demon Lord would result in violent and antagonistic monsters of both genders instead of amorous female monsters, while placing it in the far-future might have the human race effectively extinct, having fully integrated with monster-kind.

Barring a timeline scenario, I'd say Medieval or Dark Ages. Something that can support the chivalric orders, and when the Church still holds dominant power in society.

Also, as for world setting, I'm personally against using Earth directly, it's less likely to step on peoples' toes religiously, socially, and the like if we aren't using their religion, nation, or what have you in the plot.

[Drazzimyr]

Hmmm. I vote for staying relatively close to canon in most things. Changing the time period too much will result in changes to the setting's nature and flavor. Medieval or Dark Ages would be suited best for that. However, deviating from the periods could produce a number of interesting possibilities, such as Steampunk, Urban Fantasy, Futuristic Fantasy, or the like.

Alternatively, we could produce a general timeline for the setting alongside some basic guidelines, and from there flesh out individual eras, resulting in time periods with different flavors or mechanics. To use the canon as an example, setting a story or adventure in a period prior to the current Demon Lord would result in violent and antagonistic monsters of both genders instead of amorous female monsters, while placing it in the far-future might have the human race effectively extinct, having fully integrated with monster-kind.

Barring a timeline scenario, I'd say Medieval or Dark Ages. Something that can support the chivalric orders, and when the Church still holds dominant power in society.

Also, as for world setting, I'm personally against using Earth directly, it's less likely to step on peoples' toes religiously, socially, and the like if we aren't using their religion, nation, or what have you in the plot.

I love your ideas. So the generally setting would be a Dark Ages setting, but a constructed timeline of different time periods would work to add some diversity for writing stories and such, which I must say is good thinking.

Okay, so the generally idea so far is that a non-earth world, similar to Earth's Dark Ages, but I would like to hear other people's ideas an opinions still.

[L337 m4n]

Well most people know about my SHADOW stuff and the fact me and Sub usually battle about light and dark. But I'm willing to draw some of the creatures up and maybe add a entry or two of my own here. Hell here's an example of something I recently drew that relates to my Clockwork Girl and my universe that is collaborated by a few others.

Persona.jpg

Clockwork Girl.jpg

[Drazzimyr]

Well most people know about my SHADOW stuff and the fact me and Sub usually battle about light and dark. But I'm willing to draw some of the creatures up and maybe add a entry or two of my own here. Hell here's an example of something I recently drew that relates to my Clockwork Girl and my universe that is collaborated by a few others.

Persona.jpg

Clockwork Girl.jpg

That'd actually be pretty awesome if you could contribute stuff like drawings.

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Personally I would also like to see if you could incorporate SHADOW into this project, but that's your decision to make if you want to or not, so I'll leave that up to you.

[Drazzimyr]

Alright, I want everyone to know that I've removed the 'Sign-Up' part of the title, as this is technically in Go-Mode. People can still join, but this is getting started now, so no need to list it as a sign-up anymore. Just to inform you guys.

[L337 m4n]

Well most people know about my SHADOW stuff and the fact me and Sub usually battle about light and dark. But I'm willing to draw some of the creatures up and maybe add a entry or two of my own here. Hell here's an example of something I recently drew that relates to my Clockwork Girl and my universe that is collaborated by a few others.

Persona.jpg

Clockwork Girl.jpg

That'd actually be pretty awesome if you could contribute stuff like drawings.

Spoiler: show

Personally I would also like to see if you could incorporate SHADOW into this project, but that's your decision to make if you want to or not, so I'll leave that up to you.

I'll see what I can do. Might have to see how this universe will be formed first but I think some of my creations won't mind if they wander off and check this place out.

Spoiler: show

Sub might even offer some help of his own if he's interested

[Unsealed]

I'm lurking around waiting to provide input whenever.

[Drazzimyr]

I'll see what I can do. Might have to see how this universe will be formed first but I think some of my creations won't mind if they wander off and check this place out.

Alright, cool then, we'll wait and see how things turn out.

Spoiler: show

Sub might even offer some help of his own if he's interested

That'd be awesome. Seeing SHADOW and The EYE duking it out as two factions in this world would be pretty neat to see.

I'm lurking around waiting to provide input whenever.

Alright then. Though I must say that you had some good ideas and I can't wait to see what more you can come up with for this project

[Drazzimyr]

Alright, so I realized that we need a name for this project, so else things could get really freaking complicated. Personally, I'd like something along the lines of [insertnamehere]-verse, but I'm willing to see what others think.

So what should the name of this project be? Any and all suggestions and ideas are welcomes.

[Unsealed]

Hmmm. It might be best to wait on a concrete name for the setting until after it's fleshed out a bit. How about calling it the CCC or C3 Project until we're further along?

Also, do we want to do freeform brainstorming at first, or do we want to do that and try to build a basic framework at the same time?

[Drazzimyr]

Hmmm. It might be best to wait on a concrete name for the setting until after it's fleshed out a bit. How about calling it the CCC or C3 Project until we're further along?

Also, do we want to do freeform brainstorming at first, or do we want to do that and try to build a basic framework at the same time?

Alright, you've got a point about waiting, I guess I'm rushing this a little bit.

Anyway, a freeform brainstorming would be a good idea to start with. So does anyone have an ideas, I have a couple, but I want to hear what everyone else has to say.

[Unsealed]

Well... Let's see here. We could include a theme similar to Pokegirls with the idea of people making Pacts and Binding and Summoning Monster Girls if we want a setting where humans have power to rival Monsters that doesn't neccesarily stem from the gods. Such a setting could have an entirely different type of Corruption, the moral and ethical sort where mortals are consumed by greed and ambition as much as lust. In such a setting, villains could very easily be Summoners who use their powers to bind Monsters and then corrupt men and women, only to enslave them as well, thus gaining their power, wealth, and station. Heroes could be those who use their powers to fight for freedom and seek to bring down such tyrannical magocrats.

There's the option of keeping the canon concept of the human race, and eventually even Monster kind dying out because there are no men born from human/monster pairings, only more all-female monsters, or we could opt to allow males to be born from such pairings. If we choose the latter, then we might change the fundamental theme of "Liberation through Corruption" to something else, or otherwise alter the base concepts of the setting. For example, if human males can be born from Monsters, then mixed bloodlines of monsters become possible, as well as humans who have monstrous powers or abilities produced through the generations.
Alternatively, we could establish a setting where everyone has an "inner demon" that is released when they become too Corrupted, transforming into one type of monster or another based on some internal criteria rather than external stimuli, such as ancestry, personality, or something more obscure, such as the fine points of their astrological chart.
Or becoming a Monster could be a choice for people when they enter puberty or some other stressful period, giving them a lifestyle choice.
It might be possible to turn a person back from becoming a Monster, adding a new plot element to stories, or it might not. Perhaps if such a change is possible, the person might not need to be willing, making it possible for groups like the Order to capture Monsters who wish to be the way they are and force them to turn back into humans. Such a dynamic would make it possible for men who had been 'married' and converted to Incubi to be forced back into society, resulting in an entirely different set of story possibilities.

We might not even want to include the concept of Corruption at all. For example, MGQ doesn't employ Corruption, creating a more traditional Sword and Sorcery setting where sex with Monsters doesn't really have a drawback except for social taboos.

[Drazzimyr]

Personally (hopefully other people agree with me), I don't want an aspect of corruption in the setting, but I'm not looking to make a utopian world either, as that would make things really dull and boring from the start. So, if everyone else agrees, we won't have the corruption part of the setting, but we'll have some form of conflict. What are your guys ideas?

[Unsealed]

Well then... For a main conflict we could pull something Economic, Political, or Social.

For Social, the easiest would be racism or unfair conditions in society. Such a setting would put equality and social reform as major goals for heroic characters. For example, Monsters might be treated as inferior or superior to the other races by society, creating a situation for many star-crossed or forbidden love stories.

If Monsters are inferior in society, it could be due to prejudices propagated by certain religious or political bodies, like the Order or the Nobility. Monsters might be prevented from entering society, much like in the Ilias continent in MGQ. Perhaps some of them are enslaved by human society, similar to the Ant Girls from the same game, while there are freedom fighting groups staging rebellions, daring escapes and rescues, and the like. Such a setting could readily have an Underground Railroad concept at work. Alternatively, Monsters might be treated as being inhuman despite their clearly human intellect and behavior. If you wanted something less extreme, you could produce a partially integrated society in which Monsters are the victims of prejudice or inequality. Perhaps they're prevented from progressing in society and gaining power and influence by humans and other races.

If they're superior, then they might rule over humans and the other races and farm them as breeding partners and servants or slaves. They might perform breeding experiments to produce superior specimens or alter them with magic. Monsters in this type of setting rule over humans, who are unable to fight back or resist their inhuman overlords. The setting would fundamentally have a heavy fem-dom feel to it. Alternatively, it could be less extreme, with Monsters holding the highest positions of power and authority in society, with humans unable to advance unless they have the favor of a high-ranking Monster. Or perhaps in an odd twist, it's the humans who are the monsters, lacking in any real civilized society, while Monsters are the cultured and sophisticated beings who take in and 'domesticate' humans. Planet of the Apes comes to mind as I write this.

For Political, you could do a lot, though it would naturally become a complex setting. Stories would involve political intrigue heavily: rebellions and plots to overthrow rulers, backstabbing for wealth, power, land, and influence, espionage, deception, treaties, arranged marriages and trade agreements, the importance of 'Face' and the respect of the people, and the military actions of nations. There could be nations of individual races, mixed nations, nations of solely Monsters, and so on. Books like the Song of Ice and Fire series and Kushiel's Dart and its successors come to mind. Monsters might be accepted and integrated in this type of setting, which might remove some of the novelty of them, or they might not be accepted by the other races. The Church might be a powerful political body that resists Monsters, or, alternatively, might be run by the Monsters themselves. This type of setting would incorporate plot upon plot, deception layered over and over again.

For Economic, it'd probably be an integrated society in which there is some deep pressing need that must be dealt with, and only by working together can it be accomplished. Trade, labor, perhaps even something tied to adventuring and travel, would be the main focus. Monsters and humans working together would likely be commonplace. Alternatively, Monsters and humans might be competitors for the same resources or goals. Such a setting could be very simple, or very complex, with a variety of valuable commodoties needed. You might make a setting similar to Monster Hunter with this, except that there's an obvious distinction between Monster Girls and the creatures hunted. Or perhaps you'd produce something similar to MGE Dash or the World of Terra already on the board.

[axc_o]

also, to keep a wide range of posible events and protagonism for everyone I suggest we take the pokegirls multiverse idea where the actions of someone can affect directly ONLY his current dimension/universe this way, unless we want to be in the other's story too we can write our stories and RPs without nesesarilly messing with another person's

[Unsealed]

A Multiverse option is nice, as it would allow for a great many different mechanics with the potential to overlap stories and characters at later times via Magic or the like without forcing compliance in the various writers and gamers.

The only things to watch out for are the possiblity of having to number or otherwise mark specific 'verses, showing which one an individual work is set in, and the possibility of people trying to make works that aren't really in the same 'verse conform mechanically or plot-wise.

I think Multiverse is a good idea, so long as we track them, since it opens more options. However, it can also make it hard to produce a single 'canon' unless we're willing to have a broad understanding of it.

[Drazzimyr]

Well if we're going to go with a Multiverse option, we need to keep a way to track them, at that would take some effort. Personally, I would like it to be one universe, so that the established "canon" of this project, is kept in line.

But, in order to keep track of how each person interacts within the canon, we could try this idea - We set up a definite list of people important to the setting, and make a place where people can compile characters that they've used for RPs, Fanfictions and other things.

That's me personal idea, but I'm willing to hear from others.

[axc_o]

I was thinking more about something like a single universe for the canon that splits into the different verses due the variations our stories make in it, that way we can make a single history, but authors and players can twist it freely without bothering others

[Drazzimyr]

Well, that does make sense, but people already do that in their own stories and RPs of the MGE, so keeping track of that would be a tad difficult.

[L337 m4n]

Hmm well I guess if it concerns universes you could always try a sort of history lesson about the place and then build upon that. Make it like the medieval or Dark Ages and have the good with the bad from religious wars between the Sabbath and the Forgotten God to new innovations that cause the Order to destroy the village and capture the innovator so that things stay status quo with them on top.

Course comparing notes and taking some traits from each universe you could do something like Kingdom Hearts and have a world with something from everybody contributed but a universe with it's own history and way of life. Hell you can even make some of the characters act differently if you so desire.